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PMH LAND SLIDE!!!

Post  Simon on Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:26 pm

I hope I managed to get your attention, a potential land slide is building up at the rear of Block B. I'm not sure about Block C condition. A PVC drain pipe burst just now due to heavy rain fall around 2pm 14th Dec 08, in Basement 2 on Block B. At 1st the PVC pipe start to vibrate violently with water gushing out at the outlet of the pipe which is causing soil erosion at the rear of the hill which Block B is located on.

After tremendous and cyclic fatigue, the pipe mounting to the ceiling gave way causing the pipe to rupture. THIS IS NOT THE 1ST TIME. It has happen before and it damaged several cars when the mounting on the ceiling gave way. Again the developer/previous management remounted it in the same incorrect manner as compared to the mounting of PVC pipes in Basement 1 which is using solid mounting to the ceiling.

2 Issue on the critical list now:-

1) Drainage of the water towards the rear of Block B is causing soil erosion. Committee/management need to resolve this problem before an actual land slide occurs. See photo below on the bad drainage causing soil erosion.

PVC Drain Pipe Rupture




Soil Erosion due to Drain PVC Pipe








2)Mounting of PVC drainage pipe needs to be remounted with solid mountings similar to Basement 1 carpark. See photo on Pipe Ceiling Mounting at Basement 2.

PVC Pipe Incorrect Mounting






Admin, please kindly urge the Committee/Management to look into this matter. Also, it's time to call for a meeting to address all critical issues immediately. As for the soil erosion, I may have to report this matter to the authority within 1 week time if not action is being taken to address the soil erosion. Thanks in advance.

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Re: PMH LAND SLIDE!!!

Post  Simon on Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:22 pm

They have repaired the PVC pipe but they didn't replace any of the ceiling mounting yet. I hope the management is considering to replace the PVC pipe ceiling mounting else another round of incident is waiting to happen.

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Re: PMH LAND SLIDE!!!

Post  Admin on Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:21 pm

Hi Simon,

Your message noted. On behalf of JMC, we would like to apologize for not paying enough attention in fixing a more secured pipe bracket. Anyway, we act on behalf of 481 units of PMH owner to appoint I&T as our Property Manager to carry out the building maintenance task.

Anyway, we have direct your complaint to I&T Senior Manager, Mr. Woo, he promised to take immediate action in 2 areas:
1) To replace drainage pipe bracket with new design, taking basement 1 as reference
2) To study the soil erosion, and seeking possibility to extend the pipe to nearest storm drain (instead of flushing the slope directly). However, this seems to be developer design issue, anyway, JMC will get the repair done without delay, and claim back the expenses from developer(it's our duty to safeguard the interest of owners, including the management fund i.e. our money)

Besides that, we would kike to take this opportunity to clarify our responsibility:
1) JMB consist of both representative from developer and owner
2) JMB should manage the premises by developer and owner (Join Management Board) P.S. we do not see this happening in PMH, because developer hardly involve anymore, not even border to attend JMB meeting. We reserve the right to complaint to C.O.B.
3) JMB will appoint a property manager to manage the property, upon strata title issuance, owner can form MC, and have the choice of self manage.
4) Property Manager will interact with owner/residents on all activities. JMC members to make important decision, while monitoring their performance. We will replace those who are under perform, on behalf of 481 owners.
5) Residents should channel their complaint to Property Manager, they are welcome to cc copy to JMC, who can be reached in every block. preferred via letterbox. Escalation is also possible through JMC members, in case property manager do not handle the complain properly.

JMC are running out of resources at the moment to conduct the dialog with the residents, we are still focusing issues like account and money transfer from developer, and car park issues. Anyway, we are planning to organize AGM early 2009.

Lastly, thank you for your suggestions and comment.

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Re: PMH LAND SLIDE!!!

Post  Simon on Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:31 pm

Admin, 1st thanks for forwarding my concerns to the JMC. I agree that the developer is liable for the pipe mountings as well as the pipe routing. Thanks for taking quick response on this matter as we are still in monsoon season.

Admin, thanks for highlighting the scope of JMB. I understand that JMC is doing their best to transfer the fund as well as clarifying all account. I truly appreciate it. I have several issues that I have noted. Probably someday before the AGM I would want to run through these issues. I have to start writing them down before I forget them. Thanks again for your and JMC effort to protect the interest of all PMH residents. Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  matthewctj on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:58 am

Simon, really appreciate you taking the time to highlight this. I stay in Block B and this concerns me. Will take a look at the area when I get back from work today as with all these incidences these days, one can only be cautious and concerned.

Will give my imput on it when I've taken a look. But in the meantime, perhaps we should appoint a specialist to do a soil test surrounding our property.

What does everyone think?

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Re: PMH LAND SLIDE!!!

Post  Admin on Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:11 pm

matthewctj wrote:Simon, really appreciate you taking the time to highlight this. I stay in Block B and this concerns me. Will take a look at the area when I get back from work today as with all these incidences these days, one can only be cautious and concerned.

Will give my imput on it when I've taken a look. But in the meantime, perhaps we should appoint a specialist to do a soil test surrounding our property.

What does everyone think?


Greetings Matthew and Simon,

Updates from I&T:
- getting quotes to extend the rain water discharge pipe to nearest storm drain
- write letter to UOA, requesting them to send specialist to check for our property
- getting quote for specialist to check our surrounding (in case UOA do not response in time, as we have enough unpleasant experience dealing with them)

P.S. all owner reserve the rights to report to local authorities, however, we must bare in mind that if PMH Condo name appear on news paper, our property value will depreciate like no body's business. Just like many other owners, I do not intend to sell my condo. Anyway, by all means we will try our very best to up keep our property to market value, so that we will not loose our blood and sweat.

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